Comments on: Do you know anything about… witches? http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/ Misunderstood by everyone, everywhere. Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:23:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: _aa_ http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-20952 _aa_ Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:12:33 +0000 http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-20952 I have a palm treo 700p. As I read through the features of the iPhone it was like reading the list of things my phone has been able to do for 6 months, sans the multi-point touch screen (cool, but I don't quite get the application on a hand held device). The screen on the iPhone is bigger and I'm sure it comes with faster processing and more memory, but this is hardly a revolution. Once again, Apple has taken a preexisting concept, made it shiney and twice as expensive and the people go nuts. I wish I understood. I have a palm treo 700p. As I read through the features of the iPhone it was like reading the list of things my phone has been able to do for 6 months, sans the multi-point touch screen (cool, but I don’t quite get the application on a hand held device). The screen on the iPhone is bigger and I’m sure it comes with faster processing and more memory, but this is hardly a revolution.

Once again, Apple has taken a preexisting concept, made it shiney and twice as expensive and the people go nuts. I wish I understood.

]]> By: Cliph http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-20156 Cliph Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:00:19 +0000 http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-20156 David Pogue aside, I've read accounts from several journalists who have played with the device for between 10 minutes to an hour, these are journalists with no particular allegiance to Apple. I have seen numerous close-up videos of the device in action in front of TV cameras and so on, making telephone calls and demonstrating the the rest of the device's major features. The device is not a mock-up. If we can get beyond that point for a moment ... Most phones currently do not allow unsigned applications. Most smartphones do. That the first revision of the iPhone will not run 3rd party applications is somewhat disappointing but will be trivial to change at any point in the future. I see that and some other features being concessions to the mobile networks here in North America who, as you know, have monopolistic strangleholds on the markets. If Apple did not play ball somewhat the operators would not carry the phone, simple as that. What we are looking at is an unfinished first revision of a device that will have many successors. I'm pretty sure it'll play any movies you want, weather bought form the iTS or not just like current iPods and I'm also confident that as time progresses the number of applications available for the platform will grow. I hardly see the device as being "crippled". David Pogue aside, I’ve read accounts from several journalists who have played with the device for between 10 minutes to an hour, these are journalists with no particular allegiance to Apple. I have seen numerous close-up videos of the device in action in front of TV cameras and so on, making telephone calls and demonstrating the the rest of the device’s major features. The device is not a mock-up. If we can get beyond that point for a moment …

Most phones currently do not allow unsigned applications. Most smartphones do. That the first revision of the iPhone will not run 3rd party applications is somewhat disappointing but will be trivial to change at any point in the future. I see that and some other features being concessions to the mobile networks here in North America who, as you know, have monopolistic strangleholds on the markets. If Apple did not play ball somewhat the operators would not carry the phone, simple as that. What we are looking at is an unfinished first revision of a device that will have many successors.

I’m pretty sure it’ll play any movies you want, weather bought form the iTS or not just like current iPods and I’m also confident that as time progresses the number of applications available for the platform will grow.

I hardly see the device as being “crippled”.

]]> By: Kevin http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-20155 Kevin Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:36:32 +0000 http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-20155 David Pogue is hardly an unbiased source, and I haven't seen stories by anyone else claiming to have actually used it. All I see is people staring wistfully at a prototype/mockup sitting in a big perspex cylinder. Aside from that, it's starting to look like even if they did get it out, it would be horrendously crippled: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16566968/site/newsweek/page/3/ No third-party apps (in case it takes down the phone network, what bollix), SMS messaging only so no iChat, and you can't make a ringtone from your iTunes songs. My $80 Motorola is more open! It's a pity, hopefully they'll keep making computers for a while, not just Media Centres and Convergence Devices. I'm not paying $500 for an iToast, I don't care if it plays Disney movies and runs Apple-certified browning-related widgets David Pogue is hardly an unbiased source, and I haven’t seen stories by anyone else claiming to have actually used it. All I see is people staring wistfully at a prototype/mockup sitting in a big perspex cylinder.

Aside from that, it’s starting to look like even if they did get it out, it would be horrendously crippled:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16566968/site/newsweek/page/3/

No third-party apps (in case it takes down the phone network, what bollix), SMS messaging only so no iChat, and you can’t make a ringtone from your iTunes songs. My $80 Motorola is more open!

It’s a pity, hopefully they’ll keep making computers for a while, not just Media Centres and Convergence Devices. I’m not paying $500 for an iToast, I don’t care if it plays Disney movies and runs Apple-certified browning-related widgets

]]> By: Cliph http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-19970 Cliph Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:01:38 +0000 http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-19970 Kevin, you're mistaken, it is not a mockup, but I don't think it's finished yet. Journalists have been shown the device, it is on display at MacWorld, have used it to make calls and have commented on all of the functionality that was demoed yesterday. The future release date is necessary as <acronym title="Federal Communications Commission">FCC</acronym> approval takes 2 months (why haven't they applied before now? Because FCC applications are a matter of public record and are a very common source of data, including pictures, of as yet unreleased phones and other devices) and there's the slim possibility of some re-engineering if there are any problems with that approval. Once approval is obtained it'll take a number of months for production to ramp up and for sufficient quantities of stock to be manufactured and of course there needs to be time for the marketing campaign that Apple and Cingular will surely be embarking on. Apple's main problem, engineering problems aside as I'm sure they have encountered many and might have more to come, with this device will be ensuring sufficient availability. Yer awfully negative in yer auld age so ya are. I'm disappointed that the availability date is so far in the future, particularly for the poor sods in the old country. I have no idea where in the world I will be when it becomes available. jb, that text is standard legal disclaimer that is required to be displayed before the device has FCC approval. Kevin, you’re mistaken, it is not a mockup, but I don’t think it’s finished yet. Journalists have been shown the device, it is on display at MacWorld, have used it to make calls and have commented on all of the functionality that was demoed yesterday. The future release date is necessary as FCC approval takes 2 months (why haven’t they applied before now? Because FCC applications are a matter of public record and are a very common source of data, including pictures, of as yet unreleased phones and other devices) and there’s the slim possibility of some re-engineering if there are any problems with that approval. Once approval is obtained it’ll take a number of months for production to ramp up and for sufficient quantities of stock to be manufactured and of course there needs to be time for the marketing campaign that Apple and Cingular will surely be embarking on. Apple’s main problem, engineering problems aside as I’m sure they have encountered many and might have more to come, with this device will be ensuring sufficient availability. Yer awfully negative in yer auld age so ya are.

I’m disappointed that the availability date is so far in the future, particularly for the poor sods in the old country. I have no idea where in the world I will be when it becomes available.

jb, that text is standard legal disclaimer that is required to be displayed before the device has FCC approval.

]]> By: jb http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-19967 jb Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:43:59 +0000 http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-19967 <i>This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained.</i> *rolls eyes* This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained.

*rolls eyes*

]]> By: kstop http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-19966 kstop Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:22:00 +0000 http://chicks-dig-unix.net/2007/01/09/244/#comment-19966 Because there are no actual photos of it on their site. It's just a mockup. And they're announcing it now and releasing it in 6 months? Bollix. I've no doubt something will be released, eventually, maybe even before the end of 2007, but don't expect it to look like the prototype or provide half the functionality. You'd think as a nerd you'd be freaking out about the fact that your favourite hardware company is essentially transitioning into being just another consumer electronics manufacturer. Maybe when they sell off the OS division you'll get nervous. Because there are no actual photos of it on their site. It’s just a mockup. And they’re announcing it now and releasing it in 6 months? Bollix. I’ve no doubt something will be released, eventually, maybe even before the end of 2007, but don’t expect it to look like the prototype or provide half the functionality.
You’d think as a nerd you’d be freaking out about the fact that your favourite hardware company is essentially transitioning into being just another consumer electronics manufacturer. Maybe when they sell off the OS division you’ll get nervous.

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